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Centroid issue: Entering tool height offset library changes the Z value of my WCS

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I recently purchased a used bed mill with a Centroid control, and I am having an oddball issue that I'm hoping someone can help with.

When I enter the tool height offset library, the Z height of my WCS (G54) changes on its own to some seemingly random negative number.

Here are the steps that reproduce the problem:
1. Enter Part Setup, get to the Z axis step, and set the top of my workpiece as Z 0.
2. Bring the Z axis all the way up to home. The Z readout now shows some positive value (for example +7.4226"). All good so far.
3. Enter tool height offset library. The Z value shown at the top of the screen (for my WCS) suddenly changes from 7.4226" to some negative number (for example -4.9495"). The Z Ref value on the bottom of the screen also shows this same number (and since this is a bed mill and I'm not using a reference tool, the ZRef should be 0). Please note that I have not moved the Z axis - it is still all the way up in its home position, nor have I changed the tool or active tool number.

I made a video showing the issue: https://photos.app.goo.gl/UR1X8YAuORYqAe4E3 . The mystery Z number change is around the 2:35 mark.

The unexplained negative Z number is somewhat consistent by the way. If I repeat the process starting with my WCS Z origin on the top of a tall object (for example the 9" high surface plate shown in the video), the Z home value changes to -4.9495, and it will come up with that number consistently. But, if I start the process with my WCS Z origin at a much lower level (for example the bed of the vises in the video which is around 2.5" high), the Z home value changes to around -1.74", and again it will come up with that number consistently. So while it is consistent, notice that the difference between the starting Z origins (6.5" difference) is way different from the difference between the mystery negative numbers that it comes up with (approximately 3.2" difference). I can't explain it.

I've only been using the machine for about a week, and it worked fine last week, but now I have this issue. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.


Need Help! post mho for dmg gr200

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I need post processor for maho dmg gr200 solidcam

6" Long 1/8-27 NPT Form Tap

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Any idea's where one might be purchased without having one made? I can't use a tap extension due to diameter constraints.

Miyano bnc-12s chuck cap

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Hey all,

I bought a dinosaur last year miyano bnc-12s from '88,my first machine. It came with a air 3 jaw chuck. Looking to get set up for collets and looking for both main and sub chuck caps. Been tough to track down,Thanks

Newbie want to vacuum form a shallow dome shape (clear)

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Hi everyone - this is my first post here. I am posting to ask a few questions -

I want to vacuum form, or have someone vacuum form for me, a clear dome shape to fit over a clock (to cover the clock/protect the clock hands). This shape will be basically rounded conical, ~10" dia, at base, ~ 9 to 9-1/2" dia at top, ~ 3 to 3-1/2" deep, slightly rounded at the area over the dial face - generally a shallow dome shape.

So, I will need a form to pull the plastic down over. Will it be ok if I were to make this form out of laminated plywood ? Is surface finish of this form a critical feature ?

After this shape has been formed, will the finished parts shrink (will the diameter shrink) over time ? I was planning on using 0.060" petg, unless there might be a more suitable raw mat'l to use. What do you guys figure ?

help with bead knurling

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ok group i am having trouble with a bead knurl after searching the internet and talking to a few guy i know i am turning to you.

I am working with 360 brass a .925" dia. running a spindle speed of 750 rpm and a feed of .0125 per rev on a haas sl20. The issue I am having is the beads are not fully fully closing or one side is breaking off leaving a deformed bead. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance

Solved MC60 treadmill motor - eliminating zero speed start

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I have developed a simple way to bypass the MC60 motor controller requiring returning to zero speed before starting.
Simply place a 100uF/50v cap between the black and white terminals with the negative leg on the black.
The cap acts as a temporary short, simulating turning the speed to zero. Now you can set the speed, turn it off, turn it back on without changing the speed setting.

My next project is to control the MC60 from a 0-10v spindle speed signal like from Mach3. I have the parts, just have to build it and test it. It is an opto isolated linear amplifier taking 0-10V signal from a paralell break out up to 0-18.8v expected on the potentiometer wiper input on the MC60 controller.

Need Help! Please help, AWC708C Lite questions

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Hi,

I'm just upgrade my 50W Chinese CO2 Laser machine electronics to DSP - AWC708C Lite; I got stuck and have some questions:

1. My belt is 3M (3mm pitch) and have 20 teeths pulley, the motor is nema17 (1.8 degree), my driver set to 1600 micro steps: Could you please help me to calculate the Um per pulse.

2. The x,y limit switch don't work, (I connect to ELY-, ELX- and GND). will I need to setup anywhere in awc708?, I can't find the menu to manage hardware limit setting.

3. When I try to test a drwaing file I got "Size beyond border", which I already check that the "Rage" is correct, I don't know why

Thank you very much for your kind support.

Tung


Need Help! 6040 VFD being weird

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Hi Folks,

Been a member for a while, but just been lurking. Now have a problem that maybe someone could lend some guidance on, as I'm flummoxed. Sorry in advance for the long post.

Bought a 6040 a couple years back. It has the beige control box with the VFD (labeled PRT-E1500W) and drivers all together, can take pics if it helps. Been running great, but the PC it was connected to recently died (not while the control box was on), so I hooked it up to another one and installed Mach 3 and it's driver. Axis movement works fine, but I can't run the spindle while the PC is on/connected. The VFD display just flashes whatever speed the dial is turned to and the spindle doesn't spin. If I turn the PC off or disconnect the LPT cable, the display is solid (no flashing) and the spindle spins at the correct speed just fine with the switch set to manual. Turn the PC on and it's back to flashing and no spinning when the OS starts to load and Mach 3 running isn't straightening it out.

Thought it might be a bad LPT port on the PC, so installed Mach 3 and driver on another computer and hooked it up (both running clean installs of XP). Same thing. Tried disconnecting the plug from the VFD to the breakout board and that just causes the same problem even with the PC disconnected.

I don't recall having to do anything extra to get it to work when I hooked it up to the old PC, but maybe I'm forgetting? The spindle and the VFD work fine as long as I don't mind using it as an Etch A Sketch, so I don't know if there's a setting in Mach 3 I'm missing or there's actually a hardware issue with the breakout board or VFD. I'm just stumped. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

New member

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Hi
I'm Mike Giltzow and have been building guitars for 15 years. I am going to add a cnc machine to my shop and hope to share information on this site. Thanks - Mike G

Need Help! Seeking a universal pin vise to use on a 770 table

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Awhile back I bought a universal pin vise for workholding many differently shaped metal pendants (engraving): Engraving Vise| Engraving Equipment Store | Vision Engraving & Routing Systems
I've been using this vise with a 13"x13" tabletop rotary engraver but I am looking to upgrade to a 770 soon to increase production.





It's made out of plastic and aluminum.. even though it cost $400. I've been looking for a heavy duty version to use with a full-sized CNC mill but haven't found anything close to it. The pendants I cut out with a waterjet have odd shapes and are cut from harder metals such as 304 SS. Does anyone have a "universal" vise they could recommend for workholding small pieces of metal with unique shapes (no larger than 2"x2") ?




This setup works best for me since I prototype new designs constantly but I don't get custom fixtures machined until I know I'm going to need production. The universal vise makes it easy to throw a piece on and start engraving/cutting right away.


WERE DO I START NEW TO CNC

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ACQUIRED RAMBO 5V CTEK CONTROLLER WITH FLOPPY DISC DRIVE CAN I USE RS232 PORT CONNECTED TO COMPUTER PC AND HOW DO I DO THIS WHAT IS 2.5 D AS APPOSED TO 3D HOW DOES THIS AFFECT ME AND DOES 2,5 AXIS RUN 3 AXIS

Need Help! 15/16 npt what is this

Suggestions on Adding a 4th Axis

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I'm looking into adding a 4th axis to my machine. I have been perusing the internet and see hundreds of heads and tail stocks for sale. in the $100+ to $300+ range.
I would like a 4 jaw chuck with a belt drive and a tailstock. I have been reading that the gearbox drives may not be as accurate as the belt drives.

I'm looking for suggestions on what you are using and what works for you. The mill is from CNC Router Parts and works very well.

Thank you for any suggestion you can offer!!

John Frankforther

Mounting a Sheline tailstock on a Taig ?

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Hey guys, I have a Taig lathe, im not liking the tailstock, im wondering if a Sherline tailstock will work on a Taig?
Thanks,
Tom


Need Help! double point from laser tube when pulsing

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Dears, please help to indicate why the point coming from laser tube looks line double? Picture is attached. What should I do to solve this?

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Need Help! Fanuc 31i- Model B backup Macro

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Hello,

I need help, i did the BOP backup, but the BOP did a hard backup and all the macros program is in one file.

I would like to make a backup of the separate files, so if you need to visualize or modify it is easier.

I need the backup of Libary and path 1-3.

New Machine Build MG208 Router parts needed

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I purchased a dual columbo spindle MG208 router from a large solid surface company for $1,500.

I had Multicam East come out and take a look at the machine to give me an estimate on repairs.

Our electrical engineer is going to be doing the majority of the repairs in-house.

Does anyone know where to buy parts from someone else besides multicam?

Here is the list of items I need.

941B0004-0 Brake electric w/hub for z axis
941B1834-0 Belt timing 140XL043 US urethane
941P80001-0 Pulley Timing 24XL037 X 3/8in Bore
941P80034-0 Pulley Timing 18XL037 .14mm. Bore
941B1790-0 Stainless rail cap strip
941B1748-0 BRG INR Ball Car Star 25mm
Thanks again! This is my first post so take it easy on me :D

Problem Searching postprocessor SIEMENS 840D SL FOR VISION 600

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Hello,

I’m looking for a postprocessor for NX CAM, my CNC model is:
SIEMENS 840D SL FOR REICHENBACHER VISION Z 600, This is a 5-Axis Milling Machine With Dual Rotary Heads

Thank you. :)

Problem Hawk 5M Auto Speed problem

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Greetings all.

Relative newb to machining here. I work on primarily aluminum block engines ands cylinder heads. Looking into a CNC Mill for block and head decking, tapping for thread inserts, PCD cylinder boring, and some part fab.

I have a line on a Hurco Hawk 5M for cheap. The machine runs well, but currently the auto speed does not work so back gears for rigid tapping won't work until fixed. Down the line a control retrofit will be in order, but until then would like to get auto speed working.

Anyone still have manuals for these or perhaps experienced this problem?

Thanks,
Jim

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