November 10, 2017, 12:07 pm
I'm about to build my first machine based on FLA's Saturn 2 and ClearPath servos. I am on the verge of ordering my electronics and just became aware of this controller. I have searched the forums and found a bit of talk beginning around this time last year but it all dies down in the last few months. The Masso controller looks like a great idea but I am concerned that there doesn't seem to be much adoption.
I'm very interested in any and all comments - both pro & con.
Thanks in advance,
Robb
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November 10, 2017, 12:56 pm
Hi.
Im a beginner in CNC and i use a probe to copy surfaces and my question is:
Sometimes there is roughness in the surfaces after copying with the probe. Can i use a program to smooth out coordinates?
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November 10, 2017, 1:14 pm
Ok so I have this rockford planer mill that was retrofitted with a 0MC control sometime in 1995. the control was removed from a Cincinnati 25 hc with a serial number of 178. the machine was moved recently and lost its parameters. I have been tasked with trying to get this machine operational again. yesterday the machine wouldn't do anything but I changed parameter 905 bit zero to 1 and the drives actually came up getting rid of the 401 (vrdy) alarm. At this point I'm not sure if the rest of the settings and parameters are correct. I am new to FANUC as far as this stuff goes but we are making progress. I'm going to attach the information I have gathered on the equipment thus far, and I am hoping someone out there can provide some insight to this issue. maybe someone has a set of parameters off a similar control. thank you in advance!
Peter Swartz
Cowlitz River Machine
503-754-3104
Fanuc 0Mc
Main board: A20B-2000-0170/07B
SERIAL NO: 3200000877
DISPLAYED ON SCREEN AT STARTUP: 0469-05
PMC N112-01
MEM: A16B-2201-04A
I/O BOARD: A16B-1212-022
AXE BOARD: A16B-2200-0390/09B
POWER UNIT: A16B-1212-0100-01
MFG NO: P53P00922
SERVO AMPLIFIERS
X: A06B-6066-H006 A2
NO. ES20264
Y: LOOKS THE SAME BUT THERE IS NO TAG
Z: A06B-6066-H006
F3X 00897 A2
SERVOS
X
5MM/ MOTOR REV
MODEL 30S
A06B-0590-B074 #7008
DATE 94 01
TRQ (STALL) 37Nm
AMP (STALL) 16A
INSULATION CLASS F
EXCIT PERM MAGNET
VOLT 156V
3 PHASE
8 POLES
1200RPM
AMB 40 DEG C
PULSE CODER
Y
5MM/ MOTOR REV
MODEL 20S
A06B-502-B074 #7008
NO C94ZA1373
DATE 94.12
TRQ (STALL) 23Nm
AMP (STALL) 20A
EXCIT PERM MAGNET
VOLT 146V
3 PHASE
8 POLES
AMB 40DEG C
PULSE CODER
Z
2.5MM/ MOTOR REV
MODEL 5S/3000
TYPE A06B-0514-B574#7008
NO C94ZC3189
DATE 94.12
TRQ (STALL) 5.9Nm
AMPS (STALL) 10.2A
INSULATION CLASS F
EXCIT PERM MAGNET
VOLT 107V
3 PHASE
8 POLES
3000 RPM
AMB 40 DEG C
PULSE CODER
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November 10, 2017, 1:17 pm
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November 10, 2017, 1:19 pm
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November 10, 2017, 1:22 pm
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November 10, 2017, 1:34 pm
Alright CNC gods, I need some suggestions, I have a large amount of 80/20 rails from a failed project. Looking to turn those into a cnc/plasma table. I lots of rails, TONS of fasteners, enough steppers and electronics to build a killer robot and the space for a 8x4 or 4x10 table.
I have the following 80/20 parts, willing to cut what is needed but would like at least an 8x4 table out of this, or will buy some to extend to make 4x10.
1503-LS x6 105
1503-LS x5 10
1503-LS x10 57
1517-LS x2 105
1517-LS x4 96
1517-LS x2 57
1545-S x6 78
1530-ULS x2 100
1530-ULS x3 52
4441 x4
4352 x12
4302 x142
4340 x2
14117 x4
3778 x300
3943 x24
3941 x250
2826 x50
3910 x40
13-3940 x80
3663 x36
14161 x36
Bunch of openbuild v-slot wheels, bearings.
Now I would like to not spend another arm and leg to make this as I have about 4k into the above parts, I have about a grand set aside for the cnc and torch. I have NEMA 23s, power supplies and drivers for all. My goal with this project would be to have a cnc/plasma table with switchable head between torch and spindle, I would also like direct drive control. Thanks for your time and effort any any help you can provide.
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November 10, 2017, 2:24 pm
We are currently using 4 CAM systems to program all of our equipment (NX6, NX7.5, NX8.5, Edgecam 2009). We are currently stuck with all of these because we programmed ourselves into a hole and never took the time to look up until now. At this point, upgrading is most likely going to be as painful as switching to a new CAM system. I am currently evaluating the following : Edgecam, Siemens NX, CAMWorks, Solidworks CAM Profesional, Mastercam, Gibbscam and Esprit.
We have vertical mills, horizontal bars, horizontal lathes with sub spindles and or live tooling, vertical lathes with live tooling, and a 5 axis mill with turning capabilities. We also have Renishaw probes on most of our equipment now.
Have you used any of these CAM systems? How have they worked for you? What do you like about them? What do you hate about them? How has your customer service been?
Any help would be wonderful as trying to get upper management to see the direction we need to go may be a big hill to climb.
Thanks in advance everyone!!
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November 10, 2017, 2:26 pm
I know this might sound backwards, but is there a good way to manipulate your CNC machine using Mach3 so you can operate it more like a manual mill?
Say I want to edge off some stock material, and square it off on 3 sides.
On one hand, i dont want to create a CAM program (havent really learned that yet), model the part, and create simple tool path, post process, transfer file, load file and then indicate off and set go. and hope it doesnt crash.
On the other hand, I'm looking for something more automated than pressing Tab to bring up that jog control, setting motor speeds, then pressing shift-arrow Y, change to jog increment .010", move +.010" x, then repeat.
Or further on, indicating the edge and then drilling a couple patterns of holes.
is a pendant the simple answer? prefer a gamepad? is theres a simpler CAM wizard people like to use?
what do you guys use?
Tyson
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November 10, 2017, 3:55 pm
I use a lot of forums, and am pretty sure I am not retarded.
I cannot find any way to change the sort on a thread her to anything other than "Newest Unread"
Using Chrome.
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November 10, 2017, 5:05 pm
I'm working on sourcing components to hook up a Colombo spindle. The spindle needs a specialized power cable.
8 conductors. 4 - 12 gauge and 4 -16 gauge.
Describes like this...
Power Cable (3+T) x 4.0 mmq + 2x1+2x1.5 mmq SK
Includes 12 Gauge Wire for Primary Conductors - Outside Diameter: 16.0mm
I was quoted $45 a meter. Hoping to find it a bit cheaper.
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November 10, 2017, 5:10 pm
Anyone care to post pictures of how they positioned their coolant tubes on the turret? Anything I try results in a lot of coolant coming towards the door and leaking through to the floor.
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November 10, 2017, 6:03 pm
Got a plastic mold making question - as it relates to a shop vacuum. I have a ShopVac contractor series 14 gal / 6.5 amp. I've got a dust shoe hooked up to the spindle and the dust shoe hooked to my shop vac. Now, on these 3D parts the vac might have to run for 3 or 4 hours..... Anyone ever ran theirs for this length of time before? I'm trying to avoid getting a Rockler Tool dust collector because of room in the shop.
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Awall
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November 10, 2017, 7:12 pm
Hello all,
Having fooled around with lasers and 3D printers for a few years now, I figured it was time I graduate to some sort of CNC mill/router. I have built go karts and gadgets and the like all my life and the temptation to make parts out of usable material is far too tempting. Though I have not built either my laser nor my 3D printer I feel I'm familiar enough with the components to at least draw something up.
The first picture is an electric wagon go kart I built while still in high school. The next is a just a little cardboard throwing star off the laser.
I haven't put toooooooo much thought into the actual dimensions of the machine though this is close to the size I'm looking for. Mostly still conceptual at this point. I'm looking for some validation from people who have a better idea than I do. (why I'm here!) Let me know if this shape/component combination is something worth pursuing. I've done some reading, forgive me if I ask a frequently answered question.
Design Objective:
-Cut aluminum relatively quickly.
-cut steel? (is this a dream?)
-Desktop-ish size
-$1500 range budget
-no frills, hopefully easy to use
So far:
A fixed gantry configuration made of welded 2"x 2" by 0.25" wall square tube. My plan was to weld the pieces together in such a way that I can fill the whole frame with sand (i.e. drilling large holes to 'connect' the members before I weld them together so the sand can fill the entire volume of the frame). I chose this configuration as a compromise between rigidity and build volume while maintaining a reasonable "desktop" size. At present, the spindle is the generic 2.2kw model I found on GrabCad though I am interested in a belt driven brushless setup I've seen some members use. I've heard the high speed spindles are much too fast for some materials. Rails are 20mm square type, ball screws are 1605 type. Steppers are 425oz-in nema23s (mounting remains undecided as you can see in the model). I made the frame more 3D printer shaped (cube) as I would like ability to slide poly-carbonate panels into grooves just on the interior of the machine to create a chip/coolant enclosure. Many of the routers I've seen online cut using only air or the fogbuster style sprayer. Is there a reason more builds don't use typical CNC coolant? In the picture I have the machine sitting on an angle-iron frame that I will enclose to catch chips and coolant. I think I like the Gecko G540 4-Axis all-in-one controller. I've heard good things about it, but it is a little spendy.
Travel is roughly:
x:19"
y:8"
z:4"
Questions:
I know every one of these questions is a huge can of worms to get into, with many things that factor into the answers.
1. Do you think this type of fixed gantry configuration and geometry is rigid enough to mill aluminum relatively quickly? (mostly: whats your overall opinion of how it looks)
2. I have no intuition about the size of the steppers required. I figured that this is a smaller machine and I wouldn't need much more than 425oz-in? Is this fair?
3. Talk me into or out of the Gecko all-in-one thing. I see significantly cheaper options that appear to the same thing. At this level of machine, is it worth it?
4. Is cutting steel on a machine like this a pipe dream? With a different spindle maybe?
5. 1605 ball screws large enough? Or would stepping up to the 20mm be worth it?
6. Asked above: Is there a reason more builds don't use typical CNC coolant? At least the ones I've seen...
7. What your concerns with my design/component selection so far. What are some things you think I may have overlooked or not thought about?
Thanks for your help in advance!
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November 10, 2017, 7:50 pm
With Fanuc 0T Control
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i need to know how to properly use the PROBE on this machine
the machine doesn't use G54
i am also wondering about how Tapping works on this controller and how to correctly program tapping
we do a lot of metric tapping and if you know how to tap with HAAS SL 20 /SL 30 lathes and how easy it is to even peck tap with the HAAS control, here G32 is not working for me
and i don't know if a G84 is ever gonna work
as i keep getting alarms
so here i am
seeking help
please let me know what you think
thank you
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November 10, 2017, 10:46 pm
hello to everybody.i need post processor for VERO VISI the machine is a BRETON XCEDEER 1200 and the CNC is SINUMERIK 840D. THANKS
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November 10, 2017, 10:49 pm
I have a new Kitamura Mycenter 4 with I80MB control which we can't get to do anything. We just bought the machine and moved it here but the machine had been sitting in storage for several months.
The only alarms we have are
3000 Servo off
1032 NC alarm
I had a previous alarm which we have bypassed by jumping LN to wire 40
1011 2nd Limit alarm
The 4th and 5th axis are disabled, the table is disconnected from the machine and the 5th axis drive is not connected at all. The 4th axis drive has the Honda plugs disconnected.
I have also tried changing the 1020 parameters bits 0,1 and 2 individually which disables ZY and X axis
Any help would be appreciated. all drives have a green light, I have OHM'ed out the power wires from the drives to motors, I have not found any breakers tripped, the parameters match fairly well with the original parameter list and I can't find any loose wires.
The machine is showing 0 as position on all axis.
Thank you for any help.
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November 10, 2017, 11:56 pm
I am looking at getting either a Lathe or a Mill. Unsure of which to get first. The machines I am looking at are:
Milling Machine:
Either the PM-25MV with DRO, or the G0759(seems to be the G0704 with DRO)
Similar prices, just not sure which one is better. What do you guys think?
For the Lathe:
The G0602Z (The G0602 with DRO)
I am a total beginner, so I am sorry if these are stupid questions. I am just stuck as to which I should get first. It seems like the mill would be more versatile than the lathe, but like I said, I am a total noob. I think I will probably end up getting the Mill first, I am leaning more towards that. But I really want a lathe too... Ahhh. This sucks. I wish I had the cash to just get both right now.
Either way. I would like to hear from some people with experience about which machine I should get first. Also for the mills, which one do you guys think is the better mill? The Grizzly or the Precision Matthews? Is there any online sources or books I should read to help me in getting started in this hobby? What are some good beginner projects that I should work on? I would also like to turn this into a career at some point, so any pointers to help out with that would be appreciated also.
Also what are some of the basic necessity tools for each machine? For the lathe, I know I can get a basic lathe cutting tool set, But I can't find anything similar for the mill. I know I am asking a lot, so any help you guys can give is greatly appreciated.
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November 11, 2017, 2:13 am
Hi
Does anybody know where I can get old NUMCOM software to backup/restore content of old NUM CNC controller?
Also any documentation of the protocol used would be useful. I can try to build my own software if it is impossible to get original one.
-Petri
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November 11, 2017, 3:46 am
I have bought an X2 mini mill some months ago, similar to the Harbor Freight mini mill, and would like to upgrade it with one of those cheap chinese digital led tachometers off of ebay, that everyone seems to use on small lathes and mills.
Now, these tachometers require a DC power supply (8 to 23V) but instead of using an external adapter (which would require switching off the tachometer separate from the machine, unplug from socket when not in use as they always burn etc.) I'd rather tap into the existing DC power supply of the machine. I think there must be some DC source to tap into somewhere in the electric box. Maybe someone can help with a wiring diagram or pictures so I know exactly what wires/plugs I may use to power the tachometer.
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