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New Machine Build CNC Brake Press Reviews and Recommendations

November 7, 2017, 11:15 am
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I am looking to get a new larger CNC brake press. I am looking for reviews, comments, opinions, experience, etc. Only want a 6' press for light gauge aluminum and steel. what 2 axis CNC. 40Tons of more. Currently looking at these two, which are both in the $25k range. Leaning towards the US Industrial, but don't know anything about the company or brand name.

Option 1: 44 Ton x 6' Brand New U.S. Industrial CNC Hydraulic Press Brake, Mdl. USHB44-6, CNC 2-Axis Color Graphic Control, Sick 4000 Safety Guarding Light Curtain System, Ram Deflection Adjustment, Mechanical Ram Depth Control, Massive Torsion Bar for Parallelism, Forged Heavy Duty Cylinder and Cylinder Body, Three Speed Ram, Rapid Approach, Bending Cycle and Rapid Retreat, Bottom Time Delay, Inching, Single Cycle and Continuous Operation, Ram Takes Standard American Tooling (1/2" x 5/8"), Space Between Ram Tool Clamps Allows For Deep Box Bending, Bed Has Slot For Standard American Tang Tooling, Bed Also Holds Tooling With Capture Clamps, Free Gooseneck Punch & Multi-Opening Die for Up To 90 Degree Forming in 10 Ga. Mild Steel, All Steel Construction

Option 2: 45 Ton x 6' Brand New Baileigh 2 Axis CNC Programmable Vertical Hydraulic Press Brake, Mdl. BP-5078CNC, 45 Ton Maximum Pressure, 78.7" Table Length, 2 Axis Control, Repetitive Accuracy within 0.04mm, Light Curtain, Industrial Grade Hydraulic System, Adjustable 2 Step Downward Travel, Quick Release Tooling System, Ball Screw Back Gauge with Linear Guide Rail, Accepts Any Standard Press Brake Tooling, Foot Pedal Controlled, Multi Vee Bottom Die & Gooseneck Punches with Quick Change Holders, 220V~3 Phase

Option 3: ???

Thanks for any help!

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New Product CNC Brake Press Selection Help

November 7, 2017, 11:26 am
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I am looking to get a new larger CNC brake press. I am looking for reviews, comments, opinions, experience, etc. Only want a 6' press for light gauge aluminum and steel. what 2 axis CNC. 40Tons of more. Currently looking at these two, which are both in the $25k range. Leaning towards the US Industrial, but don't know anything about the company or brand name.

Option 1: 44 Ton x 6' Brand New U.S. Industrial CNC Hydraulic Press Brake, Mdl. USHB44-6, CNC 2-Axis Color Graphic Control, Sick 4000 Safety Guarding Light Curtain System, Ram Deflection Adjustment, Mechanical Ram Depth Control, Massive Torsion Bar for Parallelism, Forged Heavy Duty Cylinder and Cylinder Body, Three Speed Ram, Rapid Approach, Bending Cycle and Rapid Retreat, Bottom Time Delay, Inching, Single Cycle and Continuous Operation, Ram Takes Standard American Tooling (1/2" x 5/8"), Space Between Ram Tool Clamps Allows For Deep Box Bending, Bed Has Slot For Standard American Tang Tooling, Bed Also Holds Tooling With Capture Clamps, Free Gooseneck Punch & Multi-Opening Die for Up To 90 Degree Forming in 10 Ga. Mild Steel, All Steel Construction

Option 2: 45 Ton x 6' Brand New Baileigh 2 Axis CNC Programmable Vertical Hydraulic Press Brake, Mdl. BP-5078CNC, 45 Ton Maximum Pressure, 78.7" Table Length, 2 Axis Control, Repetitive Accuracy within 0.04mm, Light Curtain, Industrial Grade Hydraulic System, Adjustable 2 Step Downward Travel, Quick Release Tooling System, Ball Screw Back Gauge with Linear Guide Rail, Accepts Any Standard Press Brake Tooling, Foot Pedal Controlled, Multi Vee Bottom Die & Gooseneck Punches with Quick Change Holders, 220V~3 Phase

Option 3: ???

Thanks for any help!

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Colombo RS 110.22 ISO 30

November 7, 2017, 11:46 am
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Does anyone have the power and sensor pin layout for this spindle? Or know where to get it??

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Need footprint size

November 7, 2017, 12:26 pm
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After 5 years I'm about to move my machine from NY to VT. I'm in the process of making room for it in the new shop. Can anyone provide the length and width of the table that came with it (i.e. the packing crate frame). The machine is about the last one of the solid yellow machines and I don't think it had actually been delivered to me when the first Patriot was announced. I don't remember what it was called.

The machine is still in NY and I will not be back there for it for a month so in the mean time I'd like to arrange the shop to have a place to set it when I bring it here and while I reassemble it.

Tom

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Hurricane recovery and reinventing myself.

November 7, 2017, 1:01 pm
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Hello everyone. I've been a furniture and store fixture manufacturing for 40 years.
Recently my manufacturing facility in Aransas Pass, Texas was destroyed by hurricane Harvey. (The eye of the storm went right over my shop.) The strong category four storm (with sustained 140 mile an hour winds), stalled and chewed up almost everything I own. So it's time to reinvent myself.

I'm 60 years old and introduced a Komo CNC router, ( A four head 12 KW spindles with drill piggyback with the fourth head using a manual quick change collet. This 60" x 144" monster was set up on my Shop Floor in 1993. It literally took a 4 ton crane to put it in place. I purchased my second Komo router, a Mach II VR 512 around 2004. From 1993 to 2004, the changes in CNC routers were astronomical.

It's been 12 plus years since I bought a CNC piece of equipment.
Since then, obviously a lot more has changed.

Because of the nature of the products I make now, and the drop in price, I intend to buy several numerically controlled pieces of wood working equipment over the next few months.

I'm going to start with two CNC routers. One 3 axis and one 4 axis and I'm wading through the mirad of Chinese machines trying to determine which machines use quality components.

I'm also needing to get up to speed on the latest programming and design software. ( I'm an old-school Autocad 3-D and RouterCim from Cimtech. )
I will also be buying a NC controlled lathe and molder, a 25-30 hp screw compressor / dryer, planner and vertical panel saw as well.

By the way, my Extrema dip chain straight line, re-saw, and shapers all survived.

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Painting help

November 7, 2017, 2:01 pm
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A buddy of mine is making these baseball bat drinking mugs. He has tasked me the laser engraving part of the job which is no problem. Here is the problem... he want to offer clients a color engraved option. More money for me, but I can't come up with a easy way to paint the inlay. That doesn't take forever. Any ideas, I am looking to pour paint into the engraved area and wipe it off the surface and be done. What type of paint should I be using? I am using acrylic paint right now and it's not going as planned. Thanks for the help.



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Problem choppy tool path, unsure why...

November 7, 2017, 2:46 pm
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wondering if anyone can help me, its late, im tired, and im ready to put my keyboard through my moniter.

when i run simulation the tool path (of gear teeth) shows up really choppy with lots of errors, the CAD dwg is clean, and the tool path shows
that its clean in the CAD side of BobCAD but in simulation it shows errors. i have tried different posts as well.

the file is attached.

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Newbie Die cutting up to 1/4" aluminum: worth it to set up my own device?

November 7, 2017, 3:09 pm
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Greetings!

I am an artist currently making chandeliers. I have this vision to weld together aluminum pieces to make large chandeliers. I have been dealing (or trying to deal) with Chinese manufacturers to have the pieces fabricated there and shipped to USA for me to assemble. There are about a thousand problems in these interactions, most deal with metal types, thicknesses, and metal qualities.

It seems the best I can do is getting the items made in ZINC which is a terrible metal to weld mostly because I don't want to get cancer.

New thought: buy a die press and make them all myself!

Have a die made and I can hand-create each shape and have total control over my metals as well as a possibility to make endless shapes for very little continuing costs. Not only that, I don't have to deal with foreign language barriers, sub-standard product, shipping, customs, and all the waiting for my packages.

Can you guys let me know if this is a viable idea?


  • I will be die-cutting aluminum from sheets up to 0.25 inches thick but no thicker than that
  • I will be using 6061 T4 or T6 grade aluminum
  • Each cut piece will not be larger than about 4 inches square


I understand that many of these machines are kinda slow so it might take all day on the die cutting, but it would give me so much flexibility.

The Questions

  1. Which machine is a good starter press for a metal die-cutting noob?
  2. Any businesses you would recommend to create the dies?
  3. Can I cut through aluminum that thick with a manual press?


Thank you guys so much for your help! I like the idea of not outsourcing the pieces so I can say I made the whole thing.

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Need Help! tool wear/cutter comp

November 7, 2017, 4:04 pm
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New to Haas programming here. I have a problem where I'm getting a .005 " step between a contoured wall and a curved surface tool path. I've tried to use wear for giggles but there's no G41 or G42 in the code so that obviously doesn't work. I tried changing the tool diameter down to see if that would blend it but nothing is working. How do I go about remedying this situation? All the moves are G1, there are no I or J call outs. Here's the first few lines. do I need to break it apart and give it the G41 and G42 codes for each side since its different sides of a pocket? Just hoping for an easier way.wall step.JPG

G20
G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90
T2 M6
G0 G90 G54 X4.5 Y-5.1597 A0. S2500 M3
G43 H2 Z.25
M8
Z-2.4
G1 Z-2.5 F20.
Y-.4643
G0 Z-2.4
Z.25
X4.4902 Y.1644
Z-1.7934
G1 Z-1.8934
Y.1641 Z-1.9056
Y.1619 Z-1.9362

thanks in advance

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Need Help! Bobcad not posting Helical Interpolation Correctly

November 7, 2017, 4:14 pm
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Im trying to do a circular interpolation using BOBCAD v30 and im running a Fanuc 21m control. Im using the fanuc 21m post processor and when i post it there is no Z movement in the interpolation line (G03) so the machine just hovers above the part doing circles. If i add a Z movement, either with a different post processor or manually, the machine errors out as soon as it sees the Z movement and says "illegal plane movement commanded." Any tips?

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WTT: Mesa Electronics 7I76 & 7I77 Seeking 5I25 or 6I25

November 7, 2017, 4:20 pm
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I have some Spare New never used Mesa Cards. I Was going to use for a mill conversion but scrapped them plans when I got a Tormach. I am Still running another 7I76 on my lathe so I need another 5I25 or 6I25 for that machine.

7I76 Sell for $100.00 or Direct Swap For a 5I25/6I25

7I77 Sell for $180.00 or Swap for a 5I25/6I25 and $80 to $100.00 Cash

If bartering We both Pay Shipping to Each Other U.S. only Sorry I don't want to deal international.

If local Vancouver, WA / Portland, Oregon we can deal direct, If not local and you just want to buy you pay shipping about $8.00 usps priority mail or what ever deal we can come up with.

Photo 7I76


Photo 7I77


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Looking for assistance on troubleshooting a Peddinghaus Drill Line Machine

November 7, 2017, 6:29 pm
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I have a client with a Peddinghaus Drill Line machine that is acting poorly. I was called in to look at and replace (as requested) a connector that they believed had been damaged.
We are now in a replace/swap components to see if something will fix that issue.
The Drill Line is set up with a drill program and begins its paces as one would hope, however after the second or third hole is completed it moves and positions itself for the next hole ; the chuck proceeds towards the beam as expected and then does a hesitation/ jerking movement back and forth stops and then proceeds to the next hole where this issue either happens again or by chance the hole gets drilled successfully.
I have checked the servo motors and according to the client they weer sent back to the manufacture and tested to be "OKeee Doh-kee". It was suggested that the oil was contaminated but the issue is intermittent; if the oil was contaminated it would always happen I think.
Could this be a PLC issue? Is there a problem with the operators' control unit?
Has anyone else had similar issue with this piece of equipment?
I am very appreciative to any assistance anyone might have to assist me.
Many thanks in advance
Datajockey

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Opinon V Carve and Tool settings

November 7, 2017, 6:59 pm
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Hi everyone.

Hoping someone can give me some guidance. Im running a K6100 (chinese machine) and its fine for most signage projects that I encounter, But not this one. Im getting lines around the letters consistent with the height of each cut. Im using a 120 degree bit on 10mm acrylic. (I have to use the 120 bit, so that I dont go too deep on this job). Is there any 'general rules; or specific settings I should be using for the Cutting parameters- acrylic /120 degree cutter? -
  • Pass depth
  • Final Pass Steover
  • Clearance Pass stepover
  • Spindle speed
  • Feed rate
  • Plunge rate


Any feed back welcome
Cheers
Noel

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Hello

November 7, 2017, 7:09 pm
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Hello. My name Darrell Bohannan. Recently moved into a lead position for machine and fab company in the machine shop. I live in small town Marlow Oklahoma. Hoping to gain some knowledge in programming and other areas of machining

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Overload axis Z, Mori Seiki

November 7, 2017, 7:12 pm
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Hello,


I have the following problem in my machine Mori Seiki TV400, it seems that there is an overload in the Z axis servo, the alarms that appear are S52 00E1 and S03 0050, Could anyone help me?. Thank you very much

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Gantry construction: steel vs. aluminum?

November 7, 2017, 7:24 pm
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Hi,

I'm working on spec'ing a new Chinese machine. 1100x1800 with a full table structure, hiwin rails, etc. I've also chosen ball screws on all axis for higher accuracy, but have now been informed that the gantry structure had to be aluminum instead of steel due to the weight and ball screws not being rigid enough.

This seems odd to me since it's the bearings and rails that are taking the weight and all VMC's use ball screws (and are dealing with much higher forces). The design is supposed to be a full square tube structure on the uprights, but I had expected steel like in the larger format machines.

We're not planning anything as heavy as done with a full VMC, but am going to do aluminum. What I wanted was the heavy structure of the large format machines but in a smaller package (therefore increased rigidity), but suggestion of an aluminum structure for the gantry has me worried.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

-Gord

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Encoders

November 7, 2017, 7:41 pm
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Hello!,

So i am starting VMC retrofit, the machine is from 1985 and currently has analog drivers and encoders and i am looking to switch them out to digital step drive setup to use Mach3 or UCCNC and looking for some recommendation.

I found these encoders

https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Stock-En...QAAOSw8HBZL77k

Looking for that you guys think.

I am not trying to do this conversion on the cheap, i want good quality just dont know where to look

Also, i want to get some pretty tight tolerances with this machine, what is a standard or good PPR count?

Thanks
Mike

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6KW fiber laser cutting machines for hticker steel cutting , cheaper price

November 7, 2017, 8:03 pm
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Hi ,

for cutting metals :
Fiber Laser Cutting Machine 6000w 4000w 3000W,2000W ,1000W,800W,500W,300W (LF,LM,LG series)Excellent Cutting Different Metal in different thickness ,all your needs for different thickness metals can meet . and 2D &3D both ok to cut,

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6000W fiber cutitng
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Quiven form gweike laser

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new to cnc help needed

November 7, 2017, 9:00 pm
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recently acquired rambo 5v cnc 10 years old done no work in good order to make bespoke motorcycle and race parts i have never used cnc before but i am complacent wit manual machines i am 57 yrs old and have acquired to learn were do i start wat software cam cad do i need do i get free or would it be better to buy is there software out the
that is affordable to hobbyist and easy to use i am based cheshire england if there is anyone in the area looking to help maybe we can team up and sort sort an arrangement

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Problem help please

November 7, 2017, 10:36 pm
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I’ve made a core xy Arduino Grbl plotter , before assembling both x and y stepppers worked properly and once when I tried x axis command both y and x stepper started moving in opp direction when I pressed the y command both x and y start ed moving in same direction.. I checked each and every connection multiple times. Stilll it persists and later I replaced each parts separately a4988 drivers , Arduino, CNC shield v3 ..... but nothing worked I even tried uninstalling and installing Arduino IDE flashed Grbl again but still this problem is still there I don’t know what t do. If any can help me that would be a great help .. thanks in advance !
Here is my setup : a4988 drivers , Nema 17 4.2 kgcm ,CNC shield v3 , Arduino Nano ,Grbl 0.9i , configuration : core xy (h bot )

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